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So I woke up this morning, thinking I'd spend a little time cleaning around the house and then I would sit down in front of my computer and finish writing the conclusion of a multi-character pasta/story/fanfic/WHATEVER THE FUCK PEOPLE CALL IT THESE DAYS that I've been working on since early November to help stimulate my creative mind to help me finish the versus pasta I've been trying to complete for almost an entire goddamn year. And I was considering posting a Zalgo-related sketch I've had sitting on my computer waiting to upload. 

That was before I went onto DA to check my messages and saw that PocketChocolate's name was grayed out and had a line through it. And since there is no "!" next to the username, I'm assuming/hoping Pocket wasn't permabanned and willingly deactivated the account.

I read through all the journal entries Pocket wrote within the last 24 hours and I've decided I'm sick of all this "teh new guys are ruining teh fandom" BULLSHIT I KEEP READING.
 
Yesterday I wrote up a nice, calm journal entry trying to explain to Creepypasta fans that they need to respect the headcanons and ideas of others, which I saved in my stash because I thought this fandom was mature enough to understand such a basic concept.

APPARENTLY I WAS MISINFORMED!


You know what?

FUCK BEING NICE. 


To all the folks in the CreepyPasta community who were involved in CreepyPasta back when it was a tiny writing community, and now you think it's just a bunch of shitty internet 'horror' stories and the community is overrun with hordes of 13-year old fangirls, "tumblrtards", and "deviantautists", which have all ruined the CreepyPasta fandom, and go around sneering at the newer members of the community without provocation:


FUCK YOU, YOU PACK OF SELF-RIGHTEOUS, CONDESCENDING, ELITIST JACKASSES. 


Oh, so you were part of CreepyPasta back when it was only a group of budding authors looking to improve their abilities to write short-story horror, before Slenderman and PewDiePie came along and drew a lot more attention to your community? 


Congrat-u-fucking-lations! You liked CreepyPasta "before it was cool", so that makes you an Internet hipster! That and $2 will get you something on the Dollar Menu! 


THE FACT YOU WERE IN THE PASTA FANDOM FIRST HAS AS MUCH VALUE AS A GIANT BURNING BAG OF DOGSHIT


I'LL SAY IT AGAIN


SENIORITY IN THE PASTA FANDOM HAS NO AUTOMATIC VALUE.



Your opinions are not CreepyPasta's equivalent to the FUCKING GODDAMN 10 COMMANDMENTS


THERE IS NO SACRED INTERNET LAW DECREEING THAT EVERYONE WHO CONSIDERS THEMSELVES PART OF CREEPYPASTA'S FANDOM MUST CONFORM TO YOUR NARROW-MINDED, XENOPHOBIC OPINION OF HOW THE FANDOM SHOULD ACT OR FACE CONDEMNATION AS "RUINING" 'YOUR FANDOM'.


NEWSFLASH ASSHOLES!


CREEPYPASTA IS NOT JUST YOUR FANDOM. IT BELONGS TO EVERYONE WHO CONSIDERS THEMSELVES PART OF THE PASTA FANDOM, REGARDLESS OF HOW NEW THEY ARE OR HOW THEY ENJOY THEIR PASTA.


[Your opinion as an older member of the fandom CAN have value and carry weight among other fans, but only if you gain people's respect first. Otherwise you're just another asshole with a worthless opinion on the Internet. In other words, quit being an arrogant prick to everyone and people might take you seriously.]

You know who is really "ruining" the pasta fandom?


IT'S ARROGANT LITTLE PASTA ELITIST SHITS LIKE YOU WHO ARE RUINING THE FANDOM FOR EVERYONE ELSE! 


So some of the new pasta fans are drawing yaoi of characters, or making them all cutesy and harmless-looking, or making cheesy, one-dimensional Creepypasta OCs that take Mary-Suedom to a whole new plane of existence? OMG! They're shipping characters X & Y together! OH THE HUMANITY!!

And you know what?


THAT HAPPENS IN EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN FANDOM IN EXISTENCE. 

IT'S A NATURAL, NORMAL BYPRODUCT OF THE INTERNET. 


You know what makes Creepypasta different from most fandoms? It needs fresh creative souls to keep the entire Pasta fandom from going stale and dying off.


Remember that small circle of promising horror writers that started the whole CreepyPasta phenomenon? 


WELL IT'S PASTA ELITIST SNOBS LIKE YOU WHO ARE DRIVING AWAY ALL THE CURRENT AND FUTUREWRITING TALENT BY BEING TOTAL FUCKING ASSHOLES TOWARD EVERYONE WHO HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION ON WHAT MAKES A CREEPYPASTA!


I've already seen several people leave the pasta fandom in disgust over this 'conform or be cast out as a 'heathen MarySue-creating failure' attitude you elitist assholes have.


YOU ARE THE REASON CREEPYPASTA'S GOING DOWNHILL SO FAST. 

THE SHIPPING/OCS/KAWAIIFICATION ISN'T GOING TO DESTROY THE PASTA FANDOM, BUT YOUR ARROGANCE IS SURE AS DOING A DAMN FINE JOB OF WRECKING IT!! 


TL;DR: There is no FUCKING TL;DR. I know you're not illiterate. Quit being lazy and read the whole thing.


*stomps off to find some tables to flip over in rage*

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  • Mood: Rant
  • Drinking: Monster Energy
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CrucifyTheWolf Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
LOLSkeletons is the worst.
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WolfmanStarrk Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015
Oh man this rant is exactly how I'm feeling about the community, I'm seeing a lot of this elitist attitude in the comments section of nearly every classic creepy pasta. It IS irritating to see such childish behavior I must say.
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admiral-betty Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2014
:iconthisplz:

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Hallelujah.
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an-angels-plea Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2014  Student General Artist
Yes. This. Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one. I'm glad to live and let live (or let die, as the case may be). I'm no fan of Suetastic OCs, but if someone wants to make one, that's their prerogative. I have no right to tell them "OMFG GTFO YOU'RE RUINING EVERYTHING!!!" I am a part of several fandoms, and every fandom I've seen has them. It's par for the course. It's the elitist fuckwads who should be booted; they're the ones who drive new talent away, and that's what will be the death of this fandom.
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Kowalski4eva Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2014
How butthurt can you be?
I call myself creepypasta elitist because of all the people that say "omg Jeff the Killer is so KAWAII x333333" and people acting like these monsters are cute happy beings that live together. 
I only like Creepypastas when they're actually SCARY not these over-hyped bullshit like Ben Drowned and Jeff the Killer. And yes, half the fandom is a bunch of squealing weeaboo 13 year olds that want to "raep xDDDD Jeff-kun". 
THATS what I'm an elitist on. 
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Toxicpineapples Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Amen.

There was some elitist that thought that Offendermand was ruining the fandom. And another that thought Pony creepypastas + Pastamonsters was as well.
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AgentMaryland93 Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014
Oi, and I thought JB fangirls and MLP 'enforcers' were bad :iconfacepalmplz: if this is how Elitists are going to act, they should be dropped from the community. Let them see how it feels to be bashed and forgotten. The reason they act so 'holier than thou' is because they think they're safe. They have gotten comfy on their self made thrones and they think they can't be knocked off.
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xionshiyin Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I'm on my phone and only got 2 lines of text that was 4worda axcross on my screen XD bit goofyness aside I totaly agree with you.
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x0Rum-Pirate-Ranni0x Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
These are wise words, we need to spread this around various groups....
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KiraCreator21 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hoy shit there are some big-ass letters in here.
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Sonicatron Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
*slow clap*
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creepyfanfcition Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So true thank for saying the truth cause it needed to come out
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Xstarrywonder Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The problem with a lot of new people isn't that they're new, it's that they're immature and don't know anything about the stories they claim to love. If someone hates someone just for being new, then yeah, they're elitist. It isn't elitist to be annoyed that the majority of the people in the fandom are obnoxious, ignorant, preteens.
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The-Metal-Maniac Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So they're running their mouth and they don't know what they're talking about. Then try to point them in the right direction first before you go writing off a huge chunk of the fandom as ignorant and obnoxious. 

And if they choose to remain ignorant anyway, just ignore them.
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Oozypon Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This elitists stuff is pretty new to me. Dang, I should be more active 
I never knew there was a name for this kind of stuff. But I agree with you, by keeping Creepypasta going is by making fresh stories. I will try one myself, since you gave a great deal of motivation to many fans and watchers. 
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solarkittygirl Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah I'm pretty new to the Creepypasta fandom myself and I reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllly hope I don't run into any elitist assholes if I ever plan to make an actual work of fiction for it :/
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lehstar Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
*slow clap*
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angryleo1998 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I'm cracking up at this!
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Poet-of-all-Art Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Honestly? I think people here are just wanting to start off another big 'drama': "Oh, some new people are joining? Let's go and hate them and cause these huge rants and wars about it."

If I know from past personal experience of my school peers, people love to get into 'drama', whether they openly admit it or not. I guess people are just getting a little too snobby as well, though I must openly admit even the same things as what these "elitists" are thinking of are going on in my mind. But I just hate making people upset so I try my best to be my best, which I hope other people can too. 

However, we always have to look on both sides of the story, as I always like to think so (or I try to). It's not just elitists who are the problem, but there are also the several 'trolls' who've recently joined and either steal art or accuse other people of it. Elitists are not the only problem, and surely not all newcomers are just innocent 'newcomers'.

But all in all, I may not agree with everything you say, but your rant has some very good points, and I applaud you for that.  
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The-Metal-Maniac Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's the weird thing though. They want to start another "huge drama" crisis in the fandom/community, but there's no catalyst for them to truly rally around and use as a scapegoat to kick it off again. Last time this sort of thing happened (that I know of anyway) the scapegoat/center of hatred was AngryDog's Jane the Killer. But now she's considered a legitimate (if not-exactly well-liked) Creepypasta/Significant OC, so using her as a focal point won't work (plus AngryDog doesn't take abuse lying down, so they can't go after the creator either). I've noticed some elitists blaming ComicKit for turning Creepypasta into 'Comedypasta', but they've tried that before as well.

This abusing/blaming the newcomers for "ruining the fandom" seems so unfocused and, honestly, petty, that it just rubs me the wrong way, even if there are trolls lurking amongst the newcomer ranks. 'sides, trolls get crushed rather fast when they pop their heads up and start making trouble in this fandom (at least from what I've seen lately anyway).
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Poet-of-all-Art Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, about the trolls getting crushed pretty easily, I must admit is true (for example, the hate blogs died down after awhile). It is a rather sad fact that old members of the creepypasta community are stuck in their own little worlds, so are most likely defensive. Possibly because they feel that 'their' fandom is changing with the new arrivals?

This is just the thing, maybe people don't want ANYTHING to change, which is most likely why people are complaining nowadays to 'go back to the old days of creepypasta'. 

Goodness, so many factors, and while I am disturbed to discover the reasons behind the elitist's reasons for hating on the newcomers (this opened up a lot of new vies for me, by the way), this I must admit has been an interesting debate/rant/whatever this is. Theorizing? 

Eventually, this will die down soon enough, thank goodness for that, but I'm starting to wonder if the community really is getting too old? Or if this is just another rift that we will climb out of again as people have done in the past?
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SonyAndSam Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
Never have the thoughts of people like us have been summed up so well. This is just life and internet. They just need to learn.
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Requiem-of-Ice Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
What did Pocket-Chocolate do?

But to the point. Elitists are just common, illiterate, "who think they are better than anyone" trolls. Hell, I'd even say they are WORSE than FIGHTING GAME FANS. If a pasta is "TL;DR", then most likely, the pasta is amazing and these people are as worthless as a dead animal.

And what if the pairing of two OCs is OFFICIAL IN A STORYLINE? Take Suicide Sadie and Kagekao, Mr. K and Doll Face, etc. They all have stories that INTERTWINE; meaning Elitists shouldn't say SHIT about it.

And Mary Sue is just fucked up. Unless the character is a DIRECT CLONE, they aren't considered "Sue" or whatever the fuck people call it, whatsoever, no matter HOW POWERFUL THEY ARE, WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE OR WHAT HE/SHE CAN DO! AS LONG AS THEY ARE DIFFERENT, THEY ARE NOT WHATEVER THE FUCK PEOPLE CALL THINGS.

And that's my take on elitists/fake veterans/trolls/children/illiterates/fuckholes in Creepypasta who call themselves "better than others because they were here first".
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The-Metal-Maniac Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If MissTOPanda's right, she just got fed up with all the negative comments and shut her account down for awhile until this blows over. She should be back before Christmas.

But that's part of what's got me so ticked off. NO ONE should feel so harassed that they shut down their account in order to try and get away from the negativity.
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Requiem-of-Ice Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Whenever (albeit, rare) negative comments come by, I deal with it.

But someone must have ticked Pocket off so much that she'd do that.
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Saccularius Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
PREACH BROTHA
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MissTOPanda Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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By the way, I talked to Pocket. She was getting tired of negative comments so she closed her account down for a while. Waiting until everything's calm I guess. She said she'll be back before Christmas.
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turret6547 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Totally agree, and that's all I will say.
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bonegirl3 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Student General Artist
i agree. some things that people do w/ Creepypasta I don't like but I don't go and hate on them 4 it. I respect every1 especially if they like cp cuz cp is amaze. juust because u don't like it doesn't mean its gonna ruin everything... or anything really.
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IceBridget Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Yes I totally agree here well done for voicing your oppinion ^__^ it is a community thing not an exclusive club for elitist ideas. :clap:
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TwinTigerPaw Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
and i though i could vent, damn. i see what you mean, and i notice it a lot in other fandoms. which i generaly just stay away from cause im not into all the arguing back and forth, i just like a good creepy story. i have made a couple myself, but i really don't thing it's my style. 

i really hope this is seen world wide, cause i agree with you. 
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The-Metal-Maniac Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Honestly I was typing this for most of the day, but when you've had to read through several journals of people complaining about others slamming their characters for 'ruining' the fandom out of the blue, to find out that someone I know and considered a good friend on DA was so hurt by the abuse they actually deactivated their account, I guess you can say I... snapped a little.
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TwinTigerPaw Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thats harsh D: to be pushed that far, that is sad. you had a good reason to be angry. abusing someone for their ideas is wrong
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furbearingbrick Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, the "new blood" can be a tad misguided at times, but they're generally a good bunch. Creepypasta "vets" shouldn't always assume the worst. I oughta know; I'm from the initial "boom period", when creepypasta was gaining acceptance outside of /x/, but not quite "mainstream" yet, around the time Creepypasta Wiki was founded.
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The-Metal-Maniac Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I can kinda see the why there is such hostility toward "new blood", considering I joined just as the rage and backlash over the whole Jeff vs Jane thing was starting to cool off (she's the only character I know of who is explicitly banned by some CreepyPasta groups simply because of the passion some people feel about her[on both sides of the debate]), so I guess I joined in the lull period.

But the current hate and abuse toward the new crowd doesn't make any sense to me. The fandom feels like it's on the verge of another "boom", but the elitists seem determined to prevent that from ever happening.
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furbearingbrick Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, it's like they're trying to turn the fandom into some kind of exclusive club. This mindset seems to have infected most of the other admins on CP Wiki too, sadly (and LOLSKELETONS, one of my old friends, seems to be hit the hardest of all). which is why I've been steadily distancing myself from it.
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The-Metal-Maniac Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Seriously? It's gotten to the Wiki?

Shiiiiit.... that wiki was at least more inclusive than the "I am teh gatekeeper of all Creepypasta" snob who runs that 'Creepypasta.com' website.

But yeah, I did notice it getting more and more restrictive and conformist over the last few months. Not a lot of room for creativity over there anymore, at least if you want to do anything computer-related for a Creepypasta.
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furbearingbrick Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, the way I ran things was strict, but fair. Now, though...it's just INSANE. They seem to be slowly but surely morphing into the sort of cartoonishly petty tyrants the crybabies who couldn't take criticism about their stories used to accuse ME of being. And it seriously worries me.
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The-Metal-Maniac Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
To be honest, I'm not too surprised that the Wiki's heading in that direction. I had a sort of gut feeling that something like that might happen when they declared that you couldn't submit fan-sequel type pastas like "Jeff is Back" or any new Slenderman stories when they made the Spinpasta Wiki, which was kind of a bad idea in itself. 

I understand that they intended to get writers to be more original at the time, but you just can't force 100% originality from people. They're more likely to throw up their hands and give up entirely.
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furbearingbrick Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I really should have stuck with my original plan and only made the spinoff rule temporary. Oh god...I feel so guilty now.

As if that weren't enough...
creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/Thr…

In a nutshell:
Me: Ha ha you guys, that's enough. Now let JC post his own damn sequel. There's a provision that let him do that, you know.
Other admins: Forgot to to tell you, Brick. While you were gone we removed it.
Me: WHAT? But that doesn't make sense! I created the provisions in the spinoff rule to PREVENT this sort of stuff from happening!
Others: No spinoffs means no spinoffs!
Me: How the hell is letting the original author post a sequel to their OWN work a spinoff?!
Others: Because it encourages spinoffs!
Me: THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DAMN SENSE! At least let ME post it!
Others: NO!
Me: WHAT THE FUCK?! WHY NOT?!
Others: BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE IT!
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The-Metal-Maniac Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wait, wait, wait. 

Am I understanding this correctly? So you're saying that they turned your no spinoff-rule into essentially a no sequel rule?

I hadbeen considering uploading the 4th Nazar/Judge pasta to the wiki, but considering that the pastas all loosely connected sequels, they'd get dinged for violating the 'no spinoff" rule.

Yeah, that SheyGrell user is right. Creepypasta Wiki's admins are pretty much epitomizing the "holier-than-thou" elitist stereotype right now, admin duties be damned.
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AssassinWitch Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
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furbearingbrick Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
A-fucking-men.
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soundandscar Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
This needs to be seen
This means so much for everyone who's hating on the fandom and arguing 
The people ranting about everything on other peoples opinions are breaking the fandom until it ends up like...MySpace *dramatic music*
Everyone's opinions valid but let's all have  fun and enjoy short horror stories right?
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GENOSCIISSORS Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Student General Artist
preach it bro
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KitsuneFlame78 Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
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